alyCe

http://elliotjaystocks.com/blog/arch...sign-new-york/

http://www.snap2objects.com/2007/11/...e-web-20-look/

http://www.snap2objects.com/2007/11/...e-personality/

gentlemen (and women)...... discuss!

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Gino

Its just another design style, it will pass in time. I think its actually a nice style in some ways because it makes layouts clean and simple and very user friendly for a large audience.


It will run its course in something else will take its place eventually. I Dont think we need to forcefully remove it because thats impossible.

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Aarlev

I'm not a big fan of the so called web 2.0 design style although there are certain elements of it that I like. Large text is nice as opposed to a few years back where all text had to be as small as possible for a site to be 'cool'. After all a website should, in most cases, provide information and I don't want to have to sit 10mm from the screen to be able to read the content of a site.

But as one of those articles also mentions, Web 2.0 is not about design but functionality, and I do like what Web 2.0 brought along with it in terms of back end/front end development.

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Arik

My two cents

27-2-2008 19:38:44 Arik: Hmm I hate the current design fashion
27-2-2008 19:38:51 Gino Orlandi: /
27-2-2008 19:38:53 Gino Orlandi: ?
27-2-2008 19:39:40 Arik: well like 2-3 years ago it was all about minimalism
27-2-2008 19:39:44 Arik: keeping things simple
27-2-2008 19:39:54 Arik: and now it's all about VECTORS and SWIRLS and GLOWS
27-2-2008 19:40:13 Gino Orlandi: yeah web 2.0 is in
27-2-2008 19:40:22 Gino Orlandi: its still simple too though
27-2-2008 19:40:27 Gino Orlandi: very clean and simple
27-2-2008 19:40:29 Gino Orlandi: and bubbly
27-2-2008 19:40:31 Gino Orlandi: very user friendly
27-2-2008 19:40:49 Arik: well it's better than the old 'imma make my site look like a sewer full with metal pipes and lcd clock screens' trend
27-2-2008 19:42:38 Gino Orlandi: LOL
27-2-2008 19:42:51 Gino Orlandi: yeah i like web 2.0
27-2-2008 19:42:57 Gino Orlandi: i think its good for general users
27-2-2008 19:43:05 Gino Orlandi: makes things clean and simple and friendly
27-2-2008 19:43:10 Gino Orlandi: i could see this trend lasting a while
27-2-2008 19:43:19 Arik: myeah...

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I grew up with grunge design. I love it, I really do and it just pushes my creativity. I also love the clean look, but not the overdone glossy 2.0 buttons. 2.0 is good as long as you keep re-inventing it.

Michae

Hey, I found those links! :P

I hate web 2.0, it's boring and more boring and simply: boring. Reflectives are overused, drop-shadow is overused (sorry alyce, I know you like them), gradients are getting boring, Im sick of white sites with SUPERSATURATED TEXT AND BUTTONS CUZ THATS SOOO COOL AND AWESOME. No it's not. You look weird with a site like that.

Gimme grunge, gimme things that look handmade, or even better, IS handmade and transferred to a computer, gimme grunge, gimme black and neoncolors... Just DONT give me clean, white, "fun and bubbly and cute". Bleh.

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alyCe

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I agree and disagree. (*gets ready for long rant*)
First of all, I love what web 2.0 stands for, not as a design look but the idea behind that which IS web 2.0 and the things that made it. del.ici.ous, youtube, myspace, flickr, facebook and a thousand million others. User-controlled content inside an online enviroment. Every other person has a blog, everyone is on facebook etc. A very good concept indeed, as I'm shure (almost) everyone agrees on.

But this isn't what is discussed here, but the current trend in design that is connected with this, the "web 2.0 look". Gloss, reflected logos, you name it, you know what I mean. The web 2.0 look has lots of qualities that shouldn't be cast away, like the ones mentioned above in this thread. Big type, easy navigation and clean layouts. The thing is that while the web 2.0 look carries alot of good qualities it is also becoming stale, boring and generic. You aren't looking at a standard web 2.0 page anymore and thinking "whoooaa! wicked!" - you are thinking "oh... erm, isn't this what vista looks like?".

And with "destroy web 2.0" - nobody is saying "cast away everything web 2.0 stands for!", it's more a plead to evolve. If all designers sat and followed the current trend not bothering to add something new then we'd probably still would sit on these! (I know it's cute, but that's beside the point :P) - take the pieces that work and evolve, stagnation is such a bore.

And, in adress to:

True and false (imo) - we as designers would have a pretty easy and pretty boring job if that were the case, if the criteria for good web design was "It shouldn't be ugly and common folk should accept it", then... well, I knew a great deal of designers who would quit their job to say the least (imagine the uproar, the protests, the killings in the street!!!!). A designer's job is to communicate ideas through visual design and interface - not making things look "okey and not ugly". Everyone can do that, you don't need a BA in graphic design to make somthing "not ugly".

Apple made a revolution when they made coverflow, and I bet they didn't know the extend of their actions. The reflection is now a "instant coolness - just add sugar" to logodesign, webdesign, every single thing. Apple amazingly still pulls it off, as do some websites and designers, but mostly it ends up in blandness and boringness (I'm not putting myself on my high horse here, I've used way too many of them myself, trying to cut down on them though :P).

Now, I'm not butchering everything that is web 2.0 - but I posted those links to make people think about it, you can say all the cool kids on the block is trendy, but the coolest of them is the ones one step in front, or at least those who try to be, mix trendy with some personality, try to push some borders, not thinking that what is right to do is the thing that is trendy, and it's only trendy because computer arts say so

Sorry for the huuuuge post and if some think I'm trying to be provocative, but I do hope people read this and take it for what it is... something to make you think

viva la revolution! ;D

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Michae

*bows down* you tha mastah

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georigin

You are right alyce , but i feel if the site serves its purpose with "it isnt ugly and the content is easily legible..." then its a design well done!
And you right in saying you do not need a BA in Graphic Design to do design. Even the sign painters in my country are designers! (example 1, example 2, example 3). Gaining the acceptance of the common folk is a tough job! You will have to make sure your design is accepted by a wide range of people who use the net.

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leon_nerd

I too agree with Alyce. Web 2.0 is good in the sense that its us create cool clear graphics but then again there are few things that are so "web 2.0" specific that I no more go to a site and say wow..unless there is really cool graphics/illustrations around. And you can probably see those on a graphics related site only. Rest the page wide headers and footers have started looking monotonous.

But, I also like the way web 2.0 has changed the way we use the internet. From a developer's perspective web 2.0 has unleashed a wide variety of possibilities.

I don't know if web 2.0 is just a bubble waiting to burst after which people will either go back to classical designing or maybe something new will evolve. As for now I am liking it and I really believe we need to be innovative to let web 2.0 prevail yet provide new things around.