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Old 04-14-2008, 12:22 PM   #1
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Hi,

I am having a small problem with my payoff.
My logo is Hollowhead
and i have a payoff of graphics
but i think that the payoff text is taking too much attention.

Should i dump the payoff totaly?
just go with Hollowhead or should i get a new payoff?
Since i dont only do graphics the current payoff narrows my customers down and i don't want that.

The things i do is: photo/print/web

The main thing is to change so that Hollowhead is the thing that "hits" you first...

Thanks in advance.
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Old 04-14-2008, 04:45 PM   #2
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you said payoff entirely too many times for me to understand what it means.
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Old 04-14-2008, 06:11 PM   #3
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Alright, i need you to answer one question before i respond:


What the HELL is payoff?

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Old 04-15-2008, 03:54 AM   #4
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Payoff= the substring that can be a slogan, description...

ex. mcdonalds has: im loving it
burger king: have it your way


in my case: graphics

sorry for the confusion
and i agree i used the word payoff too much.

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Old 04-15-2008, 10:21 AM   #5
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I guess you could reduce the size of "Graphics" and increase + bold "Hollowhead".

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Old 04-15-2008, 12:00 PM   #6
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Well, firstofall, neither McDonals or Burgerking has their... payoff larger than their logo.
also, the burgerthings you mentioned are more like slogans, so the way I see it is, there are these two billboard-ads:

McDONALS!
I'm lovin' it

Response - "heey dude, wanna grab a salad at McDonals?"

(and now, your sign)

HOLLOWHEAD
GRAPHICS

Response - "hey dude, wanna get a new logo from hollowhead graphics?"

(and yes, I know this whole point could have been said much easier, like this) - it seems like the name is supposed to be "hollowhead graphics". If you want to use that as a commercial name then fine, no worries about that. However, if you want Hollowhead to be named just Hollowhead then you need something more (and smaller) than graphics. Like HOLLOWHEAD - graphics, design and new media. More of a slogan/payoff than just a title.

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Old 04-15-2008, 02:27 PM   #7
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Well, firstofall, neither McDonals or Burgerking has their... payoff larger than their logo.
also, the burgerthings you mentioned are more like slogans, so the way I see it is, there are these two billboard-ads:

McDONALS!
I'm lovin' it

Response - "heey dude, wanna grab a salad at McDonals?"

(and now, your sign)

HOLLOWHEAD
GRAPHICS

Response - "hey dude, wanna get a new logo from hollowhead graphics?"

(and yes, I know this whole point could have been said much easier, like this) - it seems like the name is supposed to be "hollowhead graphics". If you want to use that as a commercial name then fine, no worries about that. However, if you want Hollowhead to be named just Hollowhead then you need something more (and smaller) than graphics. Like HOLLOWHEAD - graphics, design and new media. More of a slogan/payoff than just a title.

My 0,02$
Thank you!
The first part is totally correct. And Graphics was a part of the name when i designed the logo but i decided that it was not what i wanted. Since what i do is more then "graphics" in my definition.

So now to make the some more clear questions
Does "Hollowhead" sound good alone?
Ideas for a payoff/slogan if i should have one that covers a wider ground?

All of your posts are appreciated! big or small...
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I'd say both yes and no. It's original, ironic and a bit sassy (in a good way), but I'm afraid not everyone is going to see that and just think "erm, hollowhead? I'd rather hire someone who hasn't a hollow head, but a brain" (or, something along those lines). I don't think I (or anyone) can actually say yes or no. For me I'd say go, but I'd put A LOT of work into a logo and stationary. As long as you are aware of the risk of putting yourself out there as a hollowhead :P
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